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ARTanner's avatar

Thanks for this post, thought provoking.

You begin by saying of drug-induced hallucinations that the "other obvious explanation is that the entities are real", but the rest of your piece doesn't seem to follow this. I take "real" to mean "existing in a place and time, and able to be objectively interacted with by mutually agreeing observers." But your piece instead suggests drug-induced hallucinations are actually still hallucinations, just with a distorted context. I am assuming you don't mean we should take faces in clouds to be as real as faces on a human, so I am confused why drug-induced hallucinations should be taken as real?

You say: "So what happens when you disturb the interface — for instance, by taking a psychedelic drug? Probably the same thing that happens to Levin’s frog cells, sorting algorithms, and gene regulatory networks when you mess with them. They point somewhere else in the Platonic space and draw down another kind of mind."

Here you are talking about alteration of subjectivity and that seems reasonable. But you then extend into creation of new minds:

"I think this is why psychedelics trigger encounters with otherworldly entities. Perturbed by these compounds, your brain doesn’t just collapse into a seething mass; it points back into Platonic space and instantiates new minds that can best organize the system under its new conditions."

When you see a face in the clouds, do you instantiate a new mind? If not, why should seeing fairies while high as a kite create anything more real than that face in the clouds? You say "your brain doesn’t just collapse into a seething mass", but I would disagree. Take more than the (usually microscopic) advised dose, and the mind _does_ collapse into a seething mass, utter black out with no memories to recall.

I would be interested in if you have taken psychedelic drugs yourself. My experience is that there is a predictability to the hallucinations which make it clear that nothing is made, it is merely sensory processing and temporal inference becoming disturbed or omitted, and the brain filling the gaps with a wider and wilder palette to draw from. Some people have spiritual moments. Some people have a bad time and vomit a lot. I wouldn't want to take opportunities away from people to experience either of those things! But I would want to caution away from anyone thinking their visions are real, or (as I think you are saying) are viable alternative mind states. The elves, fairies and space entities are just cloud-pareidolia maxed out.

You say: "If I’m right, then psychedelics ... can help us peer into and detail the space of possible minds". Subjectively, I think maybe: go for it, but don't hope to communicate your findings back to us in any meaningful way. Objectively, the idea feels hampered by the difficulty (if not impossibility) of studying even normal consciousness. Besides, have you ever spoken to someone with an acid habit? In my experience, there is no insight, wisdom or intelligence to be found there, only confusion.

I think I am curious what you feel is new here? Most of it seems well-established. The brain is a hallucination machine, it sounds like you agree with that. Most of the time, that hallucination reliably correlates closely with reality (and aligns with the co-hallucination of other people), and the beholder doesn't die. We can chemically alter the hallucination so it doesn't align with reality. That is interesting, fun at a rave, and highlights that what we thought was reality while not on LSD was _also_ a hallucination, just a consistent one useful for not dying.

Jess Tracy's avatar

Really great explanation of Levin's theory and how it relates to Platonic forms, and I LOVE this totally creative yet (maybe) plausible account of why psychedelics do what they do, and how we can use them (and need them) to understand reality.

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