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Siggi Prendergast's avatar

There's a lot of issues with this article, but most of them boil down to the fact that you're using figures about pasture-raised animals to launder a defense of factory farming (despite claiming to find it morally reprehensible!).

Many of the substantive critiques here fall apart because they're comparisons between LGM vs Pasture Ruminants on marginal land, not Industrial CAFO chicken or pig meat. The distinction between Pasture meat and Tyson is a big one! Routing crops through an animal (as in CAFO) multiplies field deaths because they scale with cultivation. A grain-fed CAFO animal therefore causes more field deaths per kg than a pastured animal grazing untilled forage. Field deaths themselves are a bizarre way to measure a welfare effect — I doubt anyone would consider the life of a vole killed via field cultivation to be anywhere near the same level of suffering as a cow captive in a factory farm.

A lot of the structural issues that you point out are contingent upon factors such as the not yet decarbonized feedstock supply chain or the currently fossil fuel reliant electrical grid. Also, relative to other stressors that drive increasing energy prices like Data Centers, EV Charging, etc. cultured meat is a small piece of the pie.

Regarding the agroecology bit, LGM meat cutting into Tyson's market share is hardly a stressor on some Iowa farmer converting corn acres to silvopasture, these economies are not as intertwined as this piece makes them out to be. To the extent that they are intertwined, the effect is reversed, LGM out-competing CAFO would lower feed-corn demand and make the transition easier.

If we assume that the shift towards lab-grown meat happens within a 5-year window some of the critiques in this article would hold true; but claiming that LGM research should therefore be de-prioritized (or done "a little bit") is nuts.

Some other brief notes:

- The FBS footnote belongs in the body of the text because its load-bearing piece in the rest of the section's argument, burying it is a bit more than dishonest

- The avian-flu example is weak, you concede that cultured meat is a resistance buffer against flock culling while still positioning it as the worse alternative

- If meat demand falls due to LGM, it doesn't mean no more animal co-products. it means that they come from animals who get longer lives, the demand for those co-products doesn't disappear. Either the price of such goods increase (which is a small price for animal welfare) or the supply of co-product oriented animals increases.

- I'd get rid of the pasture-appreciating in value bit, by that logic we shouldn't build any manufactured good

Ben Schulz's avatar

Lab grown meat and vertical farming could scale to feed hundreds of billions without covering the planet in human agriculture. One could re-wild vast tracks of ranches and cash crops acreage. The majority of your article is motivated reasoning. Having lived in Amish country for a decade, I get the wistful thinking. Unfortunately, we live in a science fiction reality and if AI goes well humanity can expand massively. If AI goess poorly, then feeding humanity becomes a footnote.

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